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last time they shared a debate stage it started with a friendly greeting. >> would you who work late devolving into personal insult? it is nothing smart about yuja and constant in iraq options that'd be honest. >> it's a very important, it out. >> i know the answer to that question is no, you ukraine. >> no, sir. and since 2000, the acrimony between biden and trump has only deepened he's running again and is clearly on-hand beyond normal policy differences, they're likely to battle lebur trump's refusal to admit he lost the election was rigged and stolen. the january 6 attack on the capitol and trump and hunter biden felony convictions. the american people don't want to hear that. they want to hear the about the issues, but both men may want to remember they're better moments from 2020s, like when trump counter pond biden's statement on energy have a transition from their own history? yes. he is going to destroy the url industry.

will you remember that texas were when biden they ignored trump's hectoring and spoke directly to voters. >> this is not about me, it's about your family. you, the american people well, it's about you here with me today podcast or an author, kara swisher, conservative pollster in new york times opinion writer kristen's sold his anderson nia malika henderson, politics and policy columnist at bloomberg the eliana johnson, editor in chief for the washington free bacon welcome back everyone. christian, let's start with trump. >> what are his do's and don'ts for this debate next thursday, both in terms of style and substance, what he needs to do is have a very strong message about the economy and return to that topic time and time and and time again, it is the issue on which he pulls the strongest is one of the top issues for singh voters. >> he also needs to talk about where he thinks he'd be strong, things like immigration crime, those are also issues

were voters tend to trust him more than biden don't don't take the bait and get to pulled into the weeds on how you're going to have revenge and how you're going to use your next administration for this two-tiered justice system. and also don't forget to prepare on the abortion issue a couple of weeks ago, you may recall that he had no answer when asked, what is your policy on contraception? i said, oh, we'll get back to you. that is not going to fly in a debate what does he do with questions about election denial, about whether or not he lost the 2020 election and whether joe biden is the legitimate president. now, in a perfect world, i would say, say you accept the election results and move on. i know we don't live in that world, but i do think that he needs to remember that he is not at a rally. he is not speaking to his faithful. he is speaking to a much broader group for voters, the types of folks who are not as tuned in, who are checking in on this, if only for the entertainment value, they are not going to be interested in hearing trump tried to relitigate the election from four years.

>> what does trump need to do in this debate? and what does he need to avoid? >> listen, i think he needs to avoid rambling and going on and on and the sort of ten gingival speech that we have seen from him in all of the speech. >> and fairness, there are gonna be sharp time limits, so he may be able to go on, but now that seems to be his his preferred speaking style sort of disjointed all over the place. so i think he has to avoid that i also think he has to avoid going into the weeds about the prior election and all this sort of grievance stuff that does well with the base. it doesn't do well with the broad audience that he's going to see. he's got to accept this is going to be probably the most watched debate we've seen in many, many years. and he's got to know that he's got to expand his audience beyond just a true mega folks good luck. he has been talking nonstop to his base about that. he won the 2020 election. how does he handle that? i take christians

point. he doesn't want to relitigate it, but he can't run away from it either. yeah. >> i don't mention it if he can avoid bringing it up hey you. should, he should move on. he should, he should try to accept a pain to the extent that he can say president biden is the president. i want to replace him in november. vote for me, move on. the grievance around. this. it's just not a good idea for me. there is zero chance that he i think that's right. >> i was gonna say i agree with nea and kristen's points on substance, but i think the bar is actually a little bit lower for trump in that he needs to go out there and simply make himself an acceptable alternative to a president whose approval ratings are underwater, his land mines are at the stolen election and questions about january 6, about which he will well, almost certainly be asked. and he should have a go-to line that says, i've talked extensively about my issues with the election. i don't have anything more to say about that here. and pivot to the economy

and immigration, he can use chris, you did it back in 2020. he can use those two minutes anyway. he likes know, that's true. let's switch due to biden camera. what are his do's and don'ts for thursday, don't look old. >> don't look old you know, just like trump can't seem nuts. he can't seem creaky and i think the dark brandon do a little dark brandon do as well as he did at the state of the union, that kind of energy. >> when you should dark, brenda, do you mean like when are eu baden the answer? >> so as you saw with him that keeps going through talks about your family, this guy's nuts, that kind of thing. so he feels like he's in charge even if these older and what does he do with his issues? i mean, he's the difference now is he's an incumbent, so he's got a record just like france out a record. and there are certainly vulnerabilities. i think the biggest frontally they are cost of living and immigration, right? >> so he's got to say, i'm here for your family. i hear you. i hear you that kind of ronald reagan s kinda thing is better. i hear your concerns. i'm going to do something about them. we've been through

a hard time with immigration is a harder time. but again, i hear you i hear you. i think that's always a good what i hear you is so effective for is that he can't go out there and be happy. go lucky everything's great. america. i know you think the economy is bad, but you're the ones who are wrong. he can't do that. >> would you say don't use the word bidenomics would say don't use the word bidenomics from the very first time he said that i thought you have just cut an ad for the rnc every time he tries to claim like everything is wonderful, it is dissonant, but he will so can't go out and say everything is terrible. so i agree with qarrah, the i here you it's a very fine line to walk, but that's his only way to succeed on these economic. i also think he needs to start picking picking apart trump's record as well, right? >> there is a sort of nostalgia around trump's record for some people, particularly with the economy, particularly with immigration as well he needs to have it evidence that on a lot of these issues, particular immigration, trump wasn't so great. he promised to build a wall. he promised to really wrap this issue up and really solve immigration. he didn't do that.

>> i want to double down on that point because biden wanted this june debate. he wanted an early debate prior to this, the earliest presidential phase so off was between ronald reagan and independent john anderson on september 21, 1980. and folks, yes, i was there a question, who does this early debate favor i think it favors biden because if he can show he's got all his marbles, it will put aside a lot of the concerns people well have and it will set him up stronger. >> trump. i actually think has mismanaged expectations and now he has a little bit more to lose. yeah, absolutely. because here's the thing. trump. would you have to be reminded of it as oh him, he's crazy. that kind of thing. oh, it's him again and i think people were tired of that act toward the end of his, which is why he lost. and i think if you keep reminding sort of people don't really look at the rallies. they don't look at the kind of things and they've paid attention to the trial, but full-on trump is like, oh that guy, like do i want that guy

back? >> and le, let me pick up on that because there's a phrase that has become common in this election, trump amnesia, and that people, if you look at how they view trump's in a variety of areas in 2020 versus how they view them. now, they are much more favorable. is that part of what biden's got to do? is remind people? remember what you thought of trump four years ago he absolutely needs to do that and he needs to work. >> kristen was saying he needs to not appear dismissive of voters real concerns and say, these were your concerns during the era of trump. these are your concerns during the era of biden. i hear them. i understand them and i agree with what kristen said. the trump campaign has set a very low bar for biden to clear. they've said he senile. biden will clear that bar by simply standing declares by standing up right for 90 minutes and not confusing as he did in february, the name of the president of egypt with the

present in an a mexican, i have one other thought about this. i think one of the reasons biden called for this early debate was particularly in the swing states. he's loser. and he needed to change the narrative. and one way or the other for good or real, this is going to change the narrow, i think that's right. and you saw biden keller have a swing with certain voters? >> for his after the state of the union, he's hoping for a little bump now, you saw some of that in this recent fox news poll where he's kinda closing the gap with some of these voters. so i think he's hoping for more of that. >> we're not done to beading the debate up next, learning from history, how biden and trump could benefit from watching the winning and losing moment? from previous showdown then urgent warning, the push to stick a label on social media, sparking a larger debate over parents rights and lighter, dearest, gentle reader, you'll soon have a shot to attend a real life bridgerton ball but is the penalty yay or nay on the idea

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televised presidential debate at 1960 the candidates need no introduction. we've witnessed decisive political showdowns follow pivotal moments and sometimes self-inflicted wounds like richard nixon appearing sweaty and oddly passive again, step are confident john f. kennedy and nixon you'd like to comment on that or ronald reagan flipping his age issue against walter mondale with this classic line, i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience despite all the preparation, debate sometimes bring out the less appealing sides of a candidate like michael dukakis appearing emotion levs in 1988, governor if kitty dukakis were raped and murdered would you favor and irrevocable death penalty for the killer no, i don't. >> bernard and i think you know that i've opposed the death penalty during all of my

life's or al gore in 2000 signing an exasperated in his debate with george w bush. >> i've had a record of appointing judges in the state of texas that's what a governor gets to do kristan would past as prologue should biden, lean into his age as should he be ready he's ronald reagan, but should he be ready with some kind of prepared one liner when trump goes after him on age or acuity or fitness for office let's needs to be ready to address it, but he should not lean into it. >> there was a time when experienced may have gone in his favor that was four years ago. that is not right now. americans are not saying yes, you are over the age of 80 and that's wonderful so he really needs to demonstrate that the age is nothing but a number rather for them lean into it as any kind of a selling point. >> the people i've been talking to at the white house say, the best way for biden to handle the age issue is how we performs in the debate to just

show over the course of those 90 minutes leads up to four more years. qarrah does biden need to lean in especially if trump goes after them on some way on those issues. >> well, he can push back at trump because trump's had a number of mistakes and speaking just he seems more vibrant. like i said, he seems like the guy trump seems like the guy senior cafeteria, who's yelling about who stole is pudding. but it seems vibrant at least, and that's, that's the problem, is that even though i think they'd probably have so was there anything biden could do it? or is it basically maybe one line but showing us rather than tell is critical here, show versus tail is absolutely. but he should have aligned tucked away some kinda little line that is funny. i'm sure he has lots of comedians at his disposal, tried to get one good line that there would be great for biden to lean into the age issue if you were actually capable of doing it, but i don't think he's actually capable of carrying it off in the way that ronald reagan did of the two candidates on that stage. trump is actually funny,

capable of being funny. and biden excelled in 2020, the memorable line of that debate was when he said, will you shut up when he showed exasperating? janet and was dismissive of trump's constant interruptions and being annoying. and i think you got to put who you are, then. >> there are the gaps when despite all the coaching from their teams a candidate steps in it here's president gerald ford and a 1976 debates with jimmy carter various no soviet domination of eastern europe. >> and there never will be under a ford administration you know, i've watched this and then the reaction from the question as it was a team of questioners and max franklin, the new york times, looked like he had just said the sky is falling, just utter displayed. >> nia, who do you think of these two? biden and trump will lead jury for it out of it. yeah, it's more likely to have a bad bowman nelson, i think

it's probably trump because trump doesn't really no policy. he doesn't really know substance. he has these sort of broad takes on the world, broad takes on the economy. but when it comes to sort of history and even in some ways, his own past and what he did on his own the administration, he isn't well-versed in that, so i think it's much more likely that he'll do it. he listen, i think they're both gaffe prone, but i think the more costly gaff will likely come from trump eliana, do you agree with that? i mean, both of these guys are fully capable of digging a hole for themselves. who do you think is more likely to? >> i don't agree with that. i think biden is more likely and i assure you his team is the more nervous going into this debate of the two that he has been kept away spending the weekend away. he had only a couple of public appearances this week. and it's what we've seen in his administration. i also think the format is going to greatly help trump unintended generally, in 2020, when the mics we're not muted when the other candidate was

talking, trump was interrupting constantly. it was distracting. you looked annoying and seem like a bully. now there'll be muted and i think that will accrue to trump's benefit. i also think not having an audience will actually occur to trump's benefit and that he will not be playing to a crowd sorry for almost saying that all of these rules that have been set up, i'm going to save him from themselves. i think i kind of do interesting. >> actually, i think he'll make a mistake. >> he can't help it. he was just in a room with a lot of ceos as you heard about, that, they were he met a bunch of stores somewhat positive term. i've talked to a number of people there and he blew it on every count with a lot of people because he couldn't he couldn't move quickly, especially on policy when they were they were asking you about policy and he didn't want jokes. >> i have one quick story to tell in when i did the debate between clinton and trump in 2016, they each got two minutes and these raw policy questions and you all know that if you have two minutes, that's yours exclusively, you'll use every bit of it and probably go over

a little bit trump would often be finished talking about the issue of substance in a minute, 20 minutes. >> he couldn't fill up a minute, 30 worth of time on substance. >> and what was interesting, a lot of them were surprised by the cognitive issues like that. >> he would go from one thing the next, so tangential stuff will be a problem for and then there are the iconic moments for paired are spontaneous when one candidate crushes the other, my favorite was the vice presidential debate in 1988 between senator his dan quayle and lloyd benson i have as much spirits in the congress as jack kennedy did when he sought the presidency senator i served with jack kennedy. i knew jack kennedy jack kennedy was a friend of mine senator, you're no, jack kennedy and the hat was a guttural roar like never heard before question, who do you think is more likely

whether it's an that i have a feeling was canned and prepared because quite i'll have this ridiculous habit of comparing self to jack kennedy, who the events. >> we're likely to have a winning moment. >> so i think biden's fate is entirely in his own hands. i don't think that there's anything that trump can do to be the kill shot here. but that means that for biden, because these expectations are so low, if he does something like you may recall in the state of the union a few years ago, he gets into it with marjorie taylor greene and that becomes the clip that everyone remembers. i think if biden exceeds that very low bar, he has the most opportunity for a quote, unquote, winning moment purely in part because of those expectations, they want to pick up on that because a lot of people is a lot of people going to watch the debate. millions, that a lot of people won't or won't sort of focus on that. and we'll really view what happened in terms of the clips. what, what's out there the day after, who's more likely to have at the winning club i

think biden, if he is spontaneous, right? i don't think he should have prepared leinz as much as just off the cuff. that's what you saw in the state of the union? i think he can be witty, he can be smart and fast on his feet and i think that's what was so great about his say the union performance. and i think he can bring that here again. he is smarter at policy, at doing the job of presidency of the presidency, then donald trump is, i mean, that is just an objective fact. >> the only thing i'd say back to that is, but trump is a showman, don't ever under underestimate him. >> the debate is also on over what team usa's will be wearing at the olympics will dress down the fed about the outfit, plus hold the file. >> the school bands on parents say goes too far the assignments are going the tornado here you cannot out sworn this. you cannot outrun

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kids. and in that mission, when it comes to social media, we are not doing well, we are failing. but we have a chance to get it right qarrah should social media come with a mental health warning from the surgeon general, you'd be surprised. >> now, i think it's a stunt. it's a good start, it's good to talk about and everything else, but there can be actually effective things you can do such as removing cell phones from schools that they don't get to use them talking about doing more studies, independent studies is not clear. >> i was like, why not putting these warnings on clinical maybe tens itselves. the problem, the real problem is actually taking action. this is just, it's not like cigarettes because one of the things, the weakness for the surgeon general here is the studies are unclear and also that it's not going to the effectiveness is whether this is actually going to be effective. he also talked about social media being good, you never said cigarettes were good for people. and so it's complex i want to pick up on that. >> these warning labels would be like those on tobacco and alcohol. and it's interesting since the cigarette warning was

passed in 1965, the number of americans who smoke has dropped from 42% to 12 but some researchers say, well, smoking is inherently dangerous. the harm from social media depends on what the young person is doing online. so kristan, are you ok? what do you think about this idea of warning labels on social media? >> i think the data is preliminary, but leans towards suggesting that there are real potential central harms for young people with that said, when i hear, let's put a warning label on it. i think about every time i go to california, now, everything in the state has a label on it that says this may cause reproductive harm and eventually the warnings, they just blurt out, they don't actually solve a problem. so i agree with what kara said that there are real harm because we need to study it more. but i don't like the idea of the government coming in and say, this is bad. we have decided this is bad. we have seen people become less and less trusting of science because people believe that oh, we've

got a one study suddenly we're gonna make a hole policy out of it and i worried that this is just another chapter in that kind of a saga. >> then there's the vote by the law well, it's angeles board of education this week to come up with a plan to ban cell phones in school all day, not just in classes. eliana does banning cell phones all the time in school go too far? >> i'm totally fine with it. i am for getting cell phones out of schools and kidding kids back to books with actual pages of course, there are limits on what the government can and should do when it comes to children. but these are public schools run by the government. i'm 100% okay with not just classes, i'm recess any other time open periods? no cell phones in school, you know, i think we can talk about the details in terms of can the kid walk off the campus and call their parents or whatever it is, but i'm totally fine with eliminating cell phones from schools we didn't have them when we grew up. we use the school phone to call our

parents like it would. they didn't exist but they're not okay. you know, jen z now has this interesting nostalgia for the millennial high school experience. i mean, because we actually got to be present with one another rather than being constantly on our phone and living almost exclusively in this virtual, i had carrier pigeons how far would you go? >> would you ban them? would you just ban them during class? now she does all day or would you say no ban at all? >> i think a ban of some sort and you see some schools already doing that, particularly private schools in sort of more suburban school districts with sort of a bitter tax base. and so i think for schools this is going to be important. it's going to be important for kids, so they can golfer been talk to each other, right? instead of just looking down at their phones all the time, i think this is great night. the issue china does this with games is a slippery slope into government control of people's ability to use whatever devices they want. and so trying to has these kids can only be on from certain time to certain time a gaming and

everything else. and so i worry a little bit about that idea of like legislating every single thing. >> well, this raises the larger question, qarrah, which is when and where should government trump parental rights? >> parental rights has been such a misuse term. the idea they do it all the time. government does it all the time is trumping parental rights and parents trump governments sometimes and i do think in the case of phones in schools or distraction, they are clearly a district, i think a lot of people shouldn't be using them all day long. is it district? the problem is parents are addicted kids are addicted. everybody's addicted and we start to look at it as an addictive thing and study it more we will understand, we need to better understand the addictive nature of these devices. >> question. as the as a conservative, certainly more so than qarrah. what's your feeling about government and parental rights and where are you? >> i think government should only trump parental rights when there is clear harm happening to a child. and i think even as much as we believe that social media has real potential,

potential so harms to children. i don't think there's a whole lot about what your child is using social media too much. >> that to me steps into a government should be taking over for a parent. >> however, in the public school setting, there is this kind of in loco parentis. you the school sort of takes over that parental role temporarily. and so i think once you're off the school grounds, it's up to the parent, but when you're in class, and in school, i do think that there is room for more of those. >> most parents would welcome this, right? they look their tune in on their child to be paying attention in math class, in english class, rather than looking at their phone. >> but you are going to let everybody there's a lot of parents that want them want to be in full touch with their kids the time which is another issue and so there's been a lot of pushback in some schools, although i would say kid has a medical problem, maybe they could be able to carry some sort of device, but otherwise they could go to get plenty of ways around this for kids to let their parents know if there are issues. but i do think it sends a salyut

matairie message of this is what school is for this is what our society approves and disapproves of. you can do whatever you want on your own time as a conservative or are you worried at all? >> i mean, i schools with special case, are you worried at all about the big brother aspect of government coming in and telling parents basically setting limits on how parents raise their kids. >> sure. and i've lots of disagreements with public schools there actually teaching kids and there's plenty of room for conservatives to push back on that. you've had entire political campaigns run on that. and i think this issue can be litigated in the same sort of way, but my personal view is self-learners should not be in schools. >> okay right to eliana johnson. a popular toy isn't just for kids anymore. and now cop say, adults are building a black market for loss for netflix and chill to netflix and scale how the streaming giant is turning its popular

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>> and go with a search for answers takes you. anderson cooper with 360 weeknight today on cnn celebrate go four is in america thursday, july 4. >> they've 70s dirt on cnn once again, it's time to get our groups yay or nay, on some big talkers up first, watch out designee netflix is getting into the entertainment venue game, but not yet actual theme parks instead, so-called netflix houses are coming to two locations, dallas and outside philadelphia. >> there'll be a place to shop, eat and immerse yourself in some of the streaming giant, most popular shows, like competing in a squid game okay, are dancing in a bridgerton ball. qarrah. >> are you yay or nay on taking up residence in a netflix i loved bridgerton so much. i can't stand it this season, the recent season was excellent. they have tried this. netflix has done this with some stranger things. i

think i forget which ones, but they've been trying matt, it's sort of tech events and now they're bringing it incredibly entertaining. it's a great idea to get the brand out. i love it. so are you saying that if there was a netflix house here are the washington, dc area yes. i will wear a dress crest that's how bad dance the minuet, and we will damage your wet, but you'll have to teach be first. >> kristen, can you see taking your girls? so i know one's a little bit young to a netflix house, particularly if they are, have attractions and play off some of the very popular kid shows on netflix. sure. if there was a bluey land somewhere, it would i would have to spend all of my money getting wherever it is. so i know that's not a netflix property, but yes, i actually want to cocoa mellon i have got exposed to cocomo. i speaking of addictive things, children that might have a couple of grandchildren yeah, they tune out next a month out from they'll summer olympics. we have our first look at what team usa will be wearing once

again, ralph lauren design the looks which are heavy on red, white, blue, and lots of data for the opening ceremony, american athletes will wear traditional blue jeans with navy blazers and oxford shirts and at the closing event, check out these racing style jackets and white denim with a classic polo shirt. now, some critics say the designs are dated and a bit conservative. eliana, are you giving these uniforms a gold silver, bronze, or nothing at all? >> i mean, far be it for me to disagree with the ralph lauren, but i am a no on these uniforms, they don't really look that athletic to me. i kind of wanted to see american athletes and like wonderful athletic gear. and i'm not about the genes for the olympic stage. >> i agree. i think there's no cohesion. it's like you've got to tie on and then you've got these like, i don't know if these are stone washed jeans or asset washington's i think there's certainly to light, i

like the conservative idea, the white books. i love books, but i think this is a amiss for r. rafah and we should also maybe give this to somebody else. he's done it for a number of olympics. maybe there is some younger want to say designer, although shirts all the time, how dare you no crime wave based on a surprising trend. this week we learned about an organized theft wreck. people stealing legos, yes, lego from stores and selling them on the black market. it's gotten so bad. some stores are now locking them up in california. police have recovered tens of thousands of dollars in stolen lego sets. and it turns out the hot toys are not for kids, legos or massively popular among adults, both on social media and large which events like brick khan, which has a longest running lego fan exhibition in the us qarrah, are you yay or nay, on legos or in effect, are you? i did never

knew this term until yesterday an afl well, and adult fan of like, i would like all the legos gone from my house. my son was a lego faint venta lego land enough with the legos. i would like them to go at my feet have been hurt by them by stepping on them many years. so i'm against lycos no matter what preston where are you on lego. >> i'm very pro an inordinate amount of my home decor is lego creations because you think of lego creations as i'm going to build, put some upward hey, and i'm going to build no, no, this is a small bonsai tree. you can change out the pink to be green during different times of year. this is a picture of one my husband built. it's sitting on our mantle. we've also got jurassic park. this one was really just the gate, the gate from the film that wrapped her behind. i know he's a vicious predator indeed. and we've also so got, there's ones for bb8, the saturn, five rocket that used to sit behind me in my office. so during the early pandemic on zooms, i'd have something fun behind me. there are plenty of ways adults can use legos.

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best shot so i'm keeping an eye on what's happening in louisiana. >> the state legislature, there has just passed a law that would require classrooms to display the ten i'm commandments end in readable, relatively large font. and what frustrates me about this as a conservative and personally as a christian as we have just been fighting these battles around, what is it the schools are teaching children are schools pushing a viewpoint on children? this is obviously schools trying to push a viewpoint on children and the center right? it has been winning lots of battles around things like school choice, saying if you don't like schools, you should be able to take your children elsewhere. this is just a i think are huge misstep. i think it's going to set the right back in terms of its quest to help fashion a school system that is more free and puts parent's choice is more at the center. and this is not going away either. it's going to get challenged court. this is going to be creating headlines for the foreseeable future nia. >> you are looking at a key voting block that democrats have depended on for a long

time and are in danger of maybe losing their big edge that's right african american voters, you can see the biden team, joe biden as well as kamala harris really having an uphill battle adl with african american voters, particularly african-american voters who are under 50 a lot of this work is also going to fall to outside groups, groups like black, black voters matter it's based in georgia and has had some success there with the georgia senate race, for instance, in groups like collect, pack, they are going to be trying to register voters. >> they've got an effort 250,000 african american voters and five swing states that is going to be something that i'm keeping an eye on because they have got to figure out how to close this sort of gap that they have in terms of what biden did in 2020 with african american voters and how polls see him doing right now, eliana, best shot trump campaigned in las vegas last weekend and he floated an interesting policy proposal. he wants to eliminate taxes on tips and it got a positive

reception in the senate where senator ted cruz is now floating a law that would do this. and it is an interesting way for trump through policy rather than style to court working class voters. i'll be watching whether he carries this through on the campaign trail and continues to talk about it. >> cara, you're just back from more of your world travels. what did you bring us? she came all the way back from the south of france to see you, chris. you're welcome. >> why is con lions, which is a big advertising event there? it's not the film of that and a lot of the talk of obviously was on ai, but i thought the most interesting discussions were how advertisers have pulled out of news content and how they should move back into it, because they're a safe space. for advertisers to go for brands to go. there's social media become very unsafe. elon musk was there spewing all kinds of nonsense. but what was interesting was that a lot of advertisers were sort of open to the idea of returning to real news content and these, these, these

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